What Healthcare Leaders Will Take Away
There is a part of a transplant that no chart tracks. A patient sits by a hospital window waiting for an organ that has no schedule, with no idea whether they will walk back out.
Most of us who work around transplant never see it. We see the listing, the operation, the follow-up. Alison Conklin lived it. At 42 the Pennsylvania photographer was told she had six months without a new heart. The cause was hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a disease of the heart muscle, and it had killed her mother at the same age. She got her heart in October 2022. In 2024 she started Bonus Days, a print magazine for the transplant community, which she says five centers now buy in bulk: NYU, Penn, Yale, UT Southwestern and Temple.
For clinicians, transplant teams, patient experience leaders and healthcare executives, here is what stayed with me:
- Why the wait is the hardest part. Alison could find no story about life after a transplant.
- One concrete thing to change in the room. Turn away from the computer, look at the patient, and give the reaction room.
- Why recovery has no end date. Alison says she is still recovering, and always will be.
- What a health system can hand a patient. In her account, five transplant centers keep re-ordering a magazine made by patients.
What is the hardest part of waiting for an organ transplant?
From her hospital bed, she went looking:
“Because everything, every main story about transplant, no matter what the organ was, it was the trauma that got somebody to organ transplant, and then they received the gift, and that’s where the story ended.”
“But I had no idea if I was going to be able to leave the hospital. Would I survive this? Would I survive waiting if it took months? Would I stay alive?”
Recovery from a transplant doesn’t end at discharge
Ask her how long recovery takes and she has her answer ready:
“I still am, and I always will be.”
The changes are ordinary and constant. Being immune compromised means asking her sons how a friend is feeling before they come over, and asking them to carry a mask to a concert. It reaches the whole household.
“Doctors and nurses and everybody at hospitals do such a wonderful job at keeping us alive, but that mental health part of it that happens when we’re home, when we’ve been discharged, is definitely the quiet battle of any chronic illness.”
What this means for teams: the moment a patient stops being our responsibility is roughly the moment the hardest work starts for them. What we send them home with is part of the care.
Dr. Rana Awdish works the same ground from inside the profession in a physician who became a critically ill patient.
What can a clinician do in the room when the news is serious?
“I think truly the best thing you need to do is just look at your patient in the eye and spend some time.”
“Sometimes that computer forces you to have your back to the patient.”
The range of reactions is wide:
- Swing around while you are delivering the hard news, rather than staying at the screen.
- Allow the space for it. Denial, anger and disbelief are all in range, and she says there is no right or wrong way to answer worst-case news.
- Sit with the person for a minute, then point them somewhere. The moment in the clinic is not the whole of the support.
What she remembers years later is not a protocol. It is what a night nurse told her:
“Think about a mountain climber. When a mountain climber has to climb to the top of the mountain, they don’t look at the top of the peak when they have all those other steps. They just simply look at the step right in front of them.”
Klaus Grim describes the same room from the family’s chair in being on the other side of healthcare.
For the clinician who delivers this news
If you are the one who says the words, and nobody ever taught you what to do in the silence afterwards, that is something we can work on. Take a look at coaching for healthcare professionals.
Why are transplant centers handing patients a printed magazine?
She also names the limit of the alternative most centers already run, sending a former patient in to talk to a current one:
“I don’t love going into the hospital unless I’m there as a patient.”
A magazine reaches the same patient without asking a recovered one to walk back in. In her account the centers hand it out in clinic as patients are told they need a transplant, to inpatients, and at routine appointments.
Whose stories are missing from the way healthcare talks about transplant?
“Obviously the surgeons get a lot of credit, and obviously we wouldn’t be here without donors, but there are so many people that I’m learning that it takes to save one life.”
What is in the September issue, in her words:
- Q&As with social workers, on what they do and what they are able to do.
- A roundup of charities.
- A roundup of virtual support groups patients can join.
Alison has watched the magazine outgrow its own description:
“I like to say that it’s patient-led. It’s made by patients for patients. But I think as it continues to grow, it’s not necessarily true. It’s community-led.”
Lillian adds the view from critical care. Whole-person transplant care runs on people the patient rarely sees, and caregivers are the most consistently overlooked of all. What patient advocacy actually means makes the same argument about who gets counted.
For patient experience leaders and transplant program directors
If your program is looking at what patients are handed on the way out, this episode is a short brief on what one recipient built. Bonus Days takes bulk orders by email.
What do patients who are still waiting need to hear?
“There’s probably going to be days, weeks, months, years that feel like two steps forward and seven steps back.”
“To know that there is an entire community that has probably experienced it, like you’re not alone, you’re not by yourself, you’re not the only person that’s ever had to handle all of this, is a really important aspect of walking through.”
Her closing instruction is borrowed. Alison names Fred Rogers as her personal hero and renders his line as “In those moments of complete darkness and fear, look for the helpers”, then gives her own reason for it: “because I promise you there are people that want to do this right next to you so you don’t have to do it alone.”
What she says the years since have been about:
“It’s the extraordinariness of ordinariness.”
Not the big celebrations. Watching a 23-year-old start his life. Grocery shopping for him in California. As Lillian puts it back to her: just being is enough.
More conversations like this one sit in the Wellbeing Collection, with a cross-listing in the Leadership Collection.
Key Takeaways for Healthcare Leaders
Frequently Asked Questions
What is it actually like to wait for a heart transplant?
What should I say to a patient I have just told needs a transplant?
Why do transplant patients struggle after they go home?
What can a hospital actually give patients to help with the emotional side of a transplant?
Is there a community or publication for transplant patients and their families?
How can patient experience leaders improve support in a transplant program?
If your team carries these conversations
If your team carries conversations like this every week and you are trying to work out what would actually change for them, we are only one conversation away.
Episode Transcript
Download transcript (.txt) ↓︎Segment 01 · 00:00
Cold Open: The Secret of Life
Alison opens with the line the episode keeps returning to: that being kind is the whole of it, and that she is alive because one family said yes. Lillian then sets the scene: the hospital window, the waiting, and the kind of loneliness no chart records and no handoff carries.
Segment 02 · 01:13
Meet Alison Conklin
Lillian introduces her guest: artist, photographer, business owner, and producer of Bonus Days, the magazine for transplant families. Alison answers that the introduction has nearly made her cry before they have started.
Segment 03 · 02:57
Diagnosis and Decline
Told at 42, the age her mother died of the same condition, that she had about six months without a new heart. How gradually the disease had taken things away, and the listing process that followed.
Segment 04 · 04:53
Searching for Answers
Admitted to wait with no timetable, she looks for any account of life after a transplant and finds none: every story she can find ends at the moment the organ arrives.
Segment 05 · 06:06
Recovery Never Ends
Why this operation was different in kind from her earlier surgeries, what immune suppression changes for a whole household, and the answer she has settled on: “I still am, and I always will be.”
Segment 06 · 07:59
Why a Print Magazine
Doom-scrolling through everyone else’s highlight reel in a quiet hospital room, on a weekend when nobody is rounding. The meeting that nearly talked her out of listing. And her husband’s reaction when she said she wanted to start a printed magazine in 2024.
Segment 07 · 10:36
Inside Bonus Days
The discharge photocopies the magazine was meant to replace, and what the first 40-page issue became: dieticians’ approved recipes, living donors, deceased donor families, caregivers and patients.
Segment 08 · 13:10
Helpers Behind the Scenes
The pilots who fly organs and patients, and the September issue about the helpers: social workers, a roundup of charities, a roundup of virtual support groups.
Segment 09 · 16:09
Getting the Magazine Into Clinics
Which centers order it in bulk, where they hand it out, why she says they keep re-ordering, and why she now calls the magazine community-led rather than patient-led.
Segment 10 · 18:25
Clinician Connection Tips
Lillian asks for one concrete thing. Alison’s answer: turn away from the computer, look at the patient, allow the reaction. And the mountain-climber line her night nurse gave her.
Segment 11 · 20:42
Hope for Those Still Waiting
What Alison wants someone in the middle of the wait to know: that it is uneven, that the community already exists, and her rendering of Fred Rogers on looking for the helpers.
Segment 12 · 22:31
What the Bonus Days Mean
The night before surgery, scrolling her camera roll and finding none of the professional wins, only the small things. The extraordinariness of ordinariness.
Segment 13 · 24:45
How to Connect
Where to find the magazine and Alison on Instagram, what sponsoring a niche readership offers a company, and how a center starts the conversation. The magazine is handed out in clinic, to inpatients, and at routine appointments. Her own read on why centers keep purchasing it: not, she says, because she is a great salesperson.
Segment 14 · 26:28
Closing and Share
Who to forward the episode to: a colleague who could be an influence or a sponsor, or someone working through chronic illness or facing a transplant.
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Transforming Healthcare Coaching Podcast — Episode 123: Bonus Days with Alison Conklin. Host Lillian Liang Emlet, MD MS CHSE CPC ELI-MP in conversation with Alison Conklin, founder and editor-in-chief of Bonus Days. Published August 24, 2026.
Alison Conklin: The secret of life — it's really just being kind. And the fact that I can be here because one family said "yes". It's a beautiful thing, and it should be celebrated, and I think it could only encourage people moving forward.
Lillian Liang Emlet: So picture the view from a hospital bed. Out the window, everyone else is going about their day, walking, working, living their lives, and you're just sitting still, waiting for a heart that may or may not come, wondering what your life will even look like if you make it out the doors. And that's the kind of loneliness medicine does not have a treatment for. Not in our hospitals, no chart tracks this, no nurse can even report on this at change of shift. No discharge instructions really can address this. And for most patients, no one ever really hands them the things to support them in those hard moments while they're in the hospital. My guest today, Alison Conklin, is an amazing, beautiful soul, person, artist, photographer, business owner, producer of Bonus Days, this incredible magazine that really helps all transplant families, patients that journey. And so we're so lucky to have her here today on the Transforming Healthcare Coaching Podcast. Alison, thank you, and welcome to the show.
Alison Conklin: Oh my gosh, what kind of intro is that? You're going to make me cry before we've even started. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor.
Lillian Liang Emlet: You're welcome. It's so incredible your story of first being a photographer and a storyteller. And right here in Pennsylvania, actually. I was, like, super excited when I found out that you're right here in Pennsylvania. And so it makes sense that with Transforming Healthcare Coaching that we'd want to feature stories like yours, where you're trying to help make things different. So I hope it's okay if I tell a little bit about your story — that you had lived with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, and you were then told that you would need a heart transplant. And when you received your new heart, you realize now that there are so many more bonus days that you get to be. And so now this magazine is a labor of love to help share and support for transplant families, that journey, and to know that they're not alone. And what I love about the magazine is there's so many different aspects to it. And so I guess my first question for you is could you take us back to, when you were in the hospital, and you would watch outside the window and going back into that time, if it's okay, what was the hardest part of waiting, through that journey of getting evaluated, getting diagnosed, being told this needs to happen? Because I can't imagine what happens in that liminal space.
Alison Conklin: I'll take you back to July of 2022. I'm 42 years old, which is the same age that my mother was when she died of HCM right in front of me. I was 14 when that happened, and then here we are all these years later, I'm the same age as her. My doctor said, "You're not going to live another six months unless you receive a heart." So in that immediate moment when I'm sitting on the little bed in the thing and they tell me this, I don't believe it for a second. I'm like, "Wait, hold on. There's no way. This isn't what death looks like," because my perception is the movies, TV shows, and I just didn't realize how slow-moving everything was, like what a slow burn it was. It was really hard to tie my shoe. I couldn't put a bed sheet on. I couldn't do steps. But it had all happened so gradually over the course of all these decades that it just became my normal, and I didn't realize how bad I was. So being a compliant patient that I am, I just started to do the things that they required me to do for listing, which is like just so many tests. They want to make sure that there's so many things that aren't wrong with you, that you could handle this. And by the time I got to October of that same year, my heart had really started to fail, and they had to place me in the hospital to finish the listing process and wait for a heart. And it's a really bizarre thing where you're hopeful that this will happen, that you'll receive an organ, but there's no timetable. It's not like you could say, "Oh, can we schedule this surgery?" Like, that is not how transplant works. So I brought a bunch of photos in with me, and I-- You know, NYU, where I was transplanted, had these beautiful picture windows, like floor to ceiling, and I could watch the busy streets of New York, and I could watch the Empire State Building change colors every night. But I had no idea if I was going to be able to leave the hospital. Would I survive this? Would I survive waiting if it took months? Would I stay alive? And also, would I survive the surgery if it happened? And then what my life would look like afterwards. And for me, I started to try to find everything I could, which was Google searching or using hashtags on social media channels. What can I find? Because everything, every main story about transplant, no matter what the organ was, it was the trauma that got somebody to organ transplant, and then they received the gift, and that's where the story ended. But I was 42. I was younger. I was like, "Well, am I going to travel? Am I going to be able to do anything? Am I living in a bubble now?" Like, what is my life going to look like? And so I just couldn't find anything. And I think there was just a lot of anxiety and fear, and because I'm a mom of two adult sons and I'm married, I was trying to just be positive and just be like, "I'm not nervous, I'm not scared," to everybody else front-facing. But I was terrified.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yeah. I can't even imagine. You know, it's like it's hard to express, and it's one of those things where you realize trying to be a good patient, trying to be a good wife, trying to be a good mom, it's really hard to, like, know what you do when you're in those alone times, you know? And I can only imagine how much quiet anxiety is in there. And how in the world did you process it? Or did you process it later after it happened?
Alison Conklin: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I still am. A lot of people will say "How long did it take to recover from a heart transplant?" My response now, I've learned just to say, "I still am, and I always will be." Because there's no other way to describe it. I've had a lot of surgeries in my life. I had open heart prior. I had a septal myectomy. I had two brain tumors, and I had them removed, one through my nose and one with gamma knife. I've had gallbladders out. I had C-sections. I've had multiple surgeries, and most of those, even the open heart, was like a few months to recover. Nothing changed. And I even thought for a minute, that when... I've had open heart. I've got this whole transplant surgery thing. It's going to be about the same. Literally not the same, and it changed every avenue of my life, and it's, and it affects not only me, but it affects my close family and friends. Because we're talking about being immune compromised, so if my kids say, "I'm going to bring somebody over," I have to say, "How are they feeling?" Or if they're going to a concert, I have to say like, "Just bring a mask with you just in case," because if they're going to come back to my house, it affects everyone, and it affected every avenue of my life, so it was a really big deal. And so I think my answer to that is I'm still processing, and I'm still learning, and I'm working through it, but I think that community has been such a huge part of just where I am right now almost four years later.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yeah. And I have to admit, like also the pandemic really didn't help, on all of the misinformation and disinformation and unacknowledgement of the millions of people who are immunocompromised in the country to just realize we are living all together, and that everyone may or may not put it on like a badge on their coat to say that I have reasons that I should wear a mask. But to make that such a public discourse through the pandemic was also very challenging, I can only imagine. So I kind of want to focus a little bit more on now this magazine, this beautiful magazine. Walk us through the moment that you realized that a printed thing, something that a person could hold in their hands, might be the answer to help other transplant families and patients through this process of continual processing and healing and recovery.
Alison Conklin: Definitely. So I'm a photographer, so I love print media. I'm a child of the '80s and '90s, so again, I love print media. But when you're sitting in a hospital room and it's quiet, maybe it's a weekend and you're there, your doctors aren't coming in really, no one's rounding because it's a Saturday or a Sunday, there's so much time to kill, and all you're doing is doom scrolling on your phone. And what are you seeing on your doom scroll? You're seeing everyone else's highlight reel. You're seeing all their highs and lows, and you're sitting here thinking, "What is my life right now? Am I going to be able to leave this hospital? What's my life going to look like post?" I needed a break from that. And so a year after my transplant, I started thinking, "What would help me?" And also, I should back up to say when I... Not everybody gets a meeting that says, "You've been told you need a transplant, now what?" But I did, and it was such a horrible experience. I left that meeting with my husband and I said, " Maybe I wait and see how long I live," which is such a naive thing to say, but it sounded so terrifying in that meeting where they're describing all the things you can and cannot do, and it was like, "Do I want my life to look like this?" Like, this can't be what my life looks like. Is this worth it? And I knew that a year later it was worth it. All of it was worth it. All the fear, the anxiety that I still had was worth it. The time that I was receiving because of this gift, absolutely worth it. But I wanted to make it easier. I knew if I was going to be thrown into the transplant community, I wanted to make it better for the people that were going to come after me, the people who were still there, everybody I was walking alongside with. So I decided to take everything that my life has been professionally and personally and create a print magazine. I remember saying to my husband, "I think I want to start a magazine about chronic illness and transplant." And he's like, "What, like a blog?" And I was like, "No. Like a printed magazine." And he looked at me like, "In 2024, you want to start a printed magazine?" "Yes." So I did. The first issue was really small. It was only 40 pages. But basically, I traveled across the country telling stories of all different organs, of all different stories, and it was so well received on that first, like, can I do it issue, that I just did another one. And then I did another one after that, and I'm currently on seven. When you are in the hospital and you're going to be discharged, you receive so many papers. They're usually just Xerox copies. They're not interesting. I don't want to read it. I don't want to consume that media. I have to be honest, it usually sits on my counter until I finally am like, "I'm throwing this away." But there has to be a better way to tell us the dos and don'ts for medications and all the little things. So that's what we did. And the magazine has dieticians sharing, like, approved recipes. It has stories from living donors and what that felt like. It has stories from deceased donor families. It has stories from caregivers and patients obviously. And it's turned into such a beautiful endeavor, and I know that it has healed me so much. And the letters that I receive and the emails I get and the comments, it's helping so many other people, and I just love that. I mean, doctors and nurses and everybody at hospitals do such a wonderful job at keeping us alive, but that mental health part of it that happens when we're home, when we've been discharged, is definitely the quiet battle of any chronic illness. And I just think that doing this project has really taught me that us collectively as a group are so much stronger than we are by ourselves, and it didn't matter and it doesn't matter what organ we have received. We all have the same fears and anxieties and joys and celebrations. And so it's just been this remarkable thing that I'm so grateful to have done.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yeah. It's really funny. I think also it really teaches everyone in the healthcare space what it's like from the patient's experience. What I love about the magazine, it's not just only patient stories, it's the caregiver story, it's the donor story, it's the just guidance for people who work in the field of transplant. And so that means there's nutritionists, there's respiratory therapists, there's critical care people like me, there's the regular medical doctors, there's the primary care. It takes an army and a village to be able to take care of all the aspects of whole care. And it's such a process. So that's what I love the most about it, is because it actually brings light to voices that aren't often seen. Most people only see the transplant surgeon or the one heart failure or some kind of like doctor who bridges that advanced care forward. And so there's only a couple centers in the world that people usually identify with, but there's lots of little people. And I really love the caregiver stories because those are also often neglected and forgotten.
Alison Conklin: 100%. Yes. I mean, and that's the thing that I've really learned. I mean, the last issue I just did, the sixth one, we had question and answers with the pilots who fly either just organs or patients. That's a big part. I mean, obviously the surgeons get a lot of credit, and obviously we wouldn't be here without donors, but there are so many people that I'm learning that it takes to save one life. I think it's important for those stories to be told and for people to see. This issue that I'm working on now that is coming out in September is all about the helpers. So we have asked the social workers, which is super fun to find out what they do and what they can do. I have a roundup of charities, a roundup of virtual support groups that you can join. I mean, I think what's remarkable is most patients when they survive transplant want to do something, and there's so many 501(c)s that are started by transplants. And we, just because we all want to give back, but, like, how do you know that these things exist? I've learned from just working on this how many resources I could have used while staying in New York that I had no idea existed. So I think putting all of this in one place, and the magazine is beautiful, if I don't say so myself, and because I made it that way because I want everyone to pick it up. Because most people's experience with transplant is Izzie cutting the wire on Grey's Anatomy. Most people don't know about it unless you're in it, and even when you're in it, you don't really know about it. But I mean, I think encouraging a really positive way to speak about organ donation, especially in today's news, is really important because I think I've learned, and obviously through this, I'm only here because of someone else, because of many someone elses. And I think I can't say that I'm a guru or a spiritual, like guiding person, but that is the secret of life. It's really just being kind. I mean, and the fact that I can be here because one family said yes. And then all of these other people have dedicated their lives to science to figure out how to even make that yes turn into something that is me sitting here almost four years later. It's a beautiful thing, and it should be celebrated, and I think it could only encourage people moving forward.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yes, absolutely. So I want to say, so for everyone, when we're talking about the magazines, they really are very beautiful. And so this is a friend and colleague of mine Dr. Alin Gragossian. She's actually an emergency medicine, critical care medicine physician who also has received a heart. And so these magazines really do feature so many wonderful stories, and I know you probably don't have a favorite because it's a compendium of so many stories overall. It's going to take a while to get through all of the stories for the different episodes of the magazine.
Alison Conklin: Yeah. I mean, they're all my favorite, and what's amazing is they're, it's evergreen. Anybody can pick up any. It's not like it's out of style or out of date. This is the most recent one, but this is with Scot Pollard, who had a heart transplant. He's an NBA superstar. But this next issue that I'm working on is... I don't know. I think it's the best one yet, so we'll see.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yeah, it works. Yeah. And so when this episode airs, we will put on the link below the show notes how you can purchase your own copy. And that gets us into now the fact that you actually have Penn, NYU, and other major healthcare systems buying issues in bulk for their waiting rooms, for their transplant clinics, for their advanced medical clinics, and pre-transplant to bring more hope into their space, to help educate their patients. Because I think taking home one of these really educates more, even as you're in the throes of the worst part of your illness pre-transplant, to be able to understand, "Should I make this decision or not? Should I even list, or should I say no?" Rather than that moment suddenly where in the clinic you get told this. And so I guess I'm curious how can other healthcare systems or how can other people help bring more hope into their own space, and where do they start?
Alison Conklin: Yeah. Well, I mean, thank you. Yeah, I think it's simply just sending me an email. If you have a center or a doctor's office or something like that, and you're interested in buying in bulk, just email me. But I know that NYU, Penn, as you mentioned, Yale, UT Southwestern, and Temple, they're all buying in large quantity, and they're giving it to their patients, and they're finding such good results. And what's interesting is that they've all started to purchase from the beginning, and they've never stopped, right? So they're seeing the results, and the retention kinda shows how important this is and how needed this kind of hope in a magazine is. I know that a lot of centers will have past transplant patients go in and speak to patients that are maybe in hospital, which is great, but it's also very triggering. I don't love going into the hospital unless I'm there as a patient. So I think there's just something really special about handing this to them and saying, "Just take a look. It was created by somebody just like you." And I like to say that it's patient-led. It's made by patients for patients. But I think as it continues to grow, it's not necessarily true. It's community-led because I do have stories, as we mentioned, from doctors, from nurses, from dieticians, from everybody involved. So simply, it's just sending me a little message saying, "Hey, I'd love to buy these in bulk." If you're interested in just seeing one for yourself, just head to bonusdaysmag.com and you can order it.
Lillian Liang Emlet: So we have a lot of clinicians, nurses, physicians, NPs, PAs that listen to the podcast, and they always think about what they can do as a leader and how can they improve the space around them. Many of us have been in the side of giving the bad news or giving the serious news for this is where, what we're up against, and it's hard because it's about to get much more complicated. From a patient's perspective having gone through the process and now trying to make things different and better for what comes ahead for others, what's one concrete thing that clinicians can do before they walk out of the room, to be able to help that moment?
Alison Conklin: Yeah. I mean, I think truly the best thing you need to do is just look at your patient in the eye and spend some time. A lot of the time sometimes during visits you're on your computer because I know clinicians have to log everything, and sometimes that computer forces you to have your back to the patient. I think if you just swing around when you're, like, delivering that hard news and just allowing a space to have all the feelings, right? There's going to be all kinds of things from denial to anger to disbelief. There's no right or wrong way to respond when being told worst-case scenario situations. I think I've been very lucky in all of the people that have taken care of me have been so remarkable. And I'm so grateful for that. I mean, I remember being in the hospital and my night nurse would just sit with me on those days where I was waiting, and I was like, "I don't know how I'm going to do this." And I don't even know if he would remember me, but I certainly remember the words that he said, which was, "Think about a mountain climber. When a mountain climber has to climb to the top of the mountain, they don't look at the top of the peak when they have all those other steps. They just simply look at the step right in front of them." And I've never forgotten that because obviously very true for transplant, but true to any kind of hardship in anyone's life. So I think it's just remembering human connection, which I know is hard because doctors and nurses and everybody's up against so many things logistically that they have to do. But I think just taking a minute and sitting with someone, and then obviously handing them Bonus Days magazine. So definitely, taking a minute. And then, also realizing that—
Lillian Liang Emlet: It's such a process that hopefully you can get through the moment in the clinic, and then also know there are other ways to support, to recommend places, communities, to be able to get that, to process. I mean, because it's really hard to process. And if there's someone listening right now who is in the waiting, right, for either a transplant or just received a diagnosis, and they really just have that fear that their life is going to just change and they don't know when it will look like on the other side, what do you want them to know having now heard so many stories and to see so many journeys? I don't know if there's something that would be helpful for people who are currently waiting.
Alison Conklin: And I think the answer is that it is going to be beautiful, and it is beautiful regardless of a treatment plan and regardless of the diagnosis. It's certainly scary, and there's probably going to be days, weeks, months, years that feel like two steps forward and seven steps back. But I think to know that there is an entire community that has probably experienced it, like you're not alone, you're not by yourself, you're not the only person that's ever had to handle all of this, is a really important aspect of walking through. Just because chronic illness is so isolating, and you feel like you're the only person that has this when all the media is just showing you all these wins. But I think it's just allowing space to be able to process as much as you can, get connected with all of the people that are doing good. My favorite quote from my personal hero, Mr. Rogers, is, "In those moments of complete darkness and fear, look for the helpers," because I promise you there are people that want to do this right next to you so you don't have to do it alone.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Oh, I love that. Of course, being a Pittsburgher.
Alison Conklin: Yes.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yes, of course, the Mr. Rogers.
Alison Conklin: Yeah, I know. I grew up on Mister Rogers. I grew up in Pittsburgh, so yeah.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Yeah, so many things tie us together. So you call them bonus days. After everything, what has living in these bonus days taught you about what actually matters in life, and what would you want every person caring for patients to carry from this episode?
Alison Conklin: Yeah. So first of all, I want to take you back to the night that they told me they found a match, a donor heart, and then they're like, "Get some sleep. Your surgery's going to be at 3:00 AM." Huh? Like, how do you sleep, right? So I spent the night scrolling my phone, looking at all of whatever's on my camera reel, and it... I wasn't looking at any wins I had professionally, any cover of magazines that I had shot in my career. I wasn't looking at any awards I won. I wasn't... I was looking at all of the little things and all the little moments that added up, and I think post-transplant, that's the most important part. I'm still here. I'm still here to see my kid go off to grad school. I lost my mom when I was 14, so being here as my 23-year-old starts his life is amazing. I just came back from California, where I went grocery shopping for him, and just to have that experience, and it's just the little things. It's not the big celebrations, and it's not the grand love stories. It's honestly just the everyday stuff that you could be involved in. It's a very ordinary... It's the extraordinariness of ordinariness. That is what this is about, and it doesn't mean that my life isn't hard some days, and it doesn't mean that you get tired, that you don't get tired of being an eternal patient. But I would choose this over and over again to be here to watch my children grow up. I've never been afraid of dying, but I've been afraid of leaving my kids too soon, and to watch them grow and become who they are is just a really... I'm so grateful.
Lillian Liang Emlet: It's all those little moments. It's all the little funny things, the laughs, the silly board games, going grocery shopping, doing laundry, just being. Just being is enough.
Alison Conklin: Right. Exactly.
Lillian Liang Emlet: It's a great lesson for everyone in life, I believe. So thank you so much, Alison, for the gift you've given every person listening to believe that beautiful life is always possible, and it's always in the little moments, and that there's ways that you can help and give back. And to... There's lots of people in your community, and also in your hospitals and your healthcare systems. And so how can people work with you? How can people engage in terms of getting bonus days into their healthcare system? How can they find you?
Alison Conklin: Yeah. Thank you. So, bonusdaysmag.com is our website. You can follow us on Instagram at bonusdaysmag. You can find me personally at Alison Conklin, or @alisonconklin on Instagram. And truly, if you're interested in sponsoring, it is a very niche group, but you would be forefront of all of these patients. And getting it in the hands of people who need it most. It's a really exciting opportunity, I think, for any company that would be intrigued. And then if you're a center, please, yeah, let's have a conversation about getting it in the hands of your patients. I know that the places I mentioned before hand it to the people that are sitting in clinic being told they need a transplant. It's being handed to people that are, like, inpatient. It's being handed when you come in for your clinic appointment, and the responses have been remarkable. And I think the proof is simple. They've never stopped purchasing it, and they're not buying it just because I'm a great salesperson, because I'm not. They're buying it because they're seeing benefits to their patients. And again, you do such a wonderful job at keeping us alive, but the emotional part of healing is a very quiet one, and this is a help.
Lillian Liang Emlet: So all those patient experience leaders out there and patient advocates out there, please check out Bonus Days. And for everyone out there doing the good work, hopefully this brought you a dose of joy and gratitude for all that we do in healthcare and also what you do as people who support that whole healing journey afterwards for all the people in our communities afterwards. And so thank you, Alison, so much for being on the podcast.
Alison Conklin: Okay. Thank you.
Lillian Liang Emlet: Everyone else listening, thank you for listening to Transforming Healthcare Coaching Podcast. Please like, share, subscribe, and more importantly, forward this to someone who you know either could make an influence, be a sponsor, someone, or someone who's working through chronic illness or might need a transplant, because this might be the gift that they really need to hear today. Thanks everyone for listening. We'll see you next time.
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